[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: DOAP usage in XMPP

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Wed Jan 13 21:47:55 UTC 2021


On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 at 20:46, Sam Whited <sam at samwhited.com> wrote:

> Where even are any of the values in this format defined? The DOAP link
> in the proto XEP just links to a giant blob of XML which is not useful.
>
> Every time I go through trying to create one of these I end up with a
> million questions that I can't actually get answers to. This format is
> not that widely used and isn't actually useful.
>
> Just as a quick example, if I wanted to set the <os> property that I see
> used in the example, what are the valid values? Or is it text? Can I
> have multiple of them? Are they comma separated, or multiple elements?
> etc. None of that is defined by this XEP, and I don't know where I would
> even start to find out.
>
>
A minute or two of searching found me this via Wikipedia:
https://github.com/ewilderj/doap

It's not great, I agree, but it's much better than inventing our own from
scratch.


> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, at 20:27, Matthew Wild wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Jan 2021, 19:43 Sam Whited, <sam at samwhited.com> wrote:
> > > I do not believe this is an appropriate technology whether it's an
> > > existing specification or not. It's just too complicated.
> >
> > It's really not. It's also easy to generate, so feel free to have a
> > different canonical format for your projects (a Lua DSL does tempt me,
> > personally...).
> >
> > But for external tools to collect and gather data from an array of
> > projects, DOAP is the existing standard interchange format for this
> > kind of data and we should use it.
> >
> > The alternative is some custom format that we will need to bikeshed,
> > document, version and maintain. I'm not keen on it.
> >
> > Regards, Matthew
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