[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: DOAP usage in XMPP

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Wed Jan 13 21:49:34 UTC 2021


On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 at 20:46, Sam Whited <sam at samwhited.com> wrote:

> Where even are any of the values in this format defined? The DOAP link
> in the proto XEP just links to a giant blob of XML which is not useful.
>
> Every time I go through trying to create one of these I end up with a
> million questions that I can't actually get answers to. This format is
> not that widely used and isn't actually useful.
>
>
And just on this, it does seem to be widely used, but even if it weren't,
this is the only format people are putting effort into within our
community. Something else might be Perfect, but this is Good, with all that
that entails.


> Just as a quick example, if I wanted to set the <os> property that I see
> used in the example, what are the valid values? Or is it text? Can I
> have multiple of them? Are they comma separated, or multiple elements?
> etc. None of that is defined by this XEP, and I don't know where I would
> even start to find out.
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, at 20:27, Matthew Wild wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Jan 2021, 19:43 Sam Whited, <sam at samwhited.com> wrote:
> > > I do not believe this is an appropriate technology whether it's an
> > > existing specification or not. It's just too complicated.
> >
> > It's really not. It's also easy to generate, so feel free to have a
> > different canonical format for your projects (a Lua DSL does tempt me,
> > personally...).
> >
> > But for external tools to collect and gather data from an array of
> > projects, DOAP is the existing standard interchange format for this
> > kind of data and we should use it.
> >
> > The alternative is some custom format that we will need to bikeshed,
> > document, version and maintain. I'm not keen on it.
> >
> > Regards, Matthew
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