[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: DOAP usage in XMPP

Sonny Piers sonny at fastmail.net
Thu Jan 14 18:06:00 UTC 2021


As a software author - I don't really care about the format being used - I'd probably just copy/paste an example and change what seems relevant and forget about it. Anything else than XML would appear odd to me though.

I had a look at DOAP and DOAP usage in XMPP; it seems simple enough that I don't need to understand how it works to edit an example or template.

Regarding its usage in the wild, there is also every official and non-official application under the GNOME project.


  Sonny Piers
  sonny at fastmail.net

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, at 17:52, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 1/13/21 12:35 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 at 18:24, Sam Whited <sam at samwhited.com
> > <mailto:sam at samwhited.com>> wrote:
> > 
> >     I'd like to recommend that we do not publish this spec in its current
> >     form. The XML community has the tendency to over-engineer everything to
> >     try and reuse schemas as much as possible which just makes things more
> >     difficult for no reason. This is a handful of simple key/value pairs, it
> >     doesn't need to use RDF or whatever the "schema" prefix means.
> > 
> >     If this spec is moved forward please consider either adding a JSON
> >     representation since this is mostly for the web and is effectively just
> >     a set of key-value pairs which probably makes JSON a better format for
> >     storing it, or a simplified XML representation that can be completely
> >     defined in this document and exists in a single namespace.
> > 
> > 
> > I was under the impression that DOAP was an existing deployed
> > specification, and that the use of RDF/XML wasn't unexpected.
> > 
> > In particular, it appears that both Mozilla and PyPI seem to use it, so
> > assuming reuse of existing standards is our thing - and presumably that
> > is exactly our thing - then use of DOAP seems like the right choice.
> It's unclear to me whether we actually use DOAP at Mozilla, but I'm
> double-checking.
> Peter
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