[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0313 (Message Archive Management)

Kevin Smith kevin.smith at isode.com
Tue Sep 7 16:39:22 UTC 2021

On 7 Sep 2021, at 16:22, Georg Lukas <georg at op-co.de> wrote:
>> §6.1.1: the business rules for user archives are inadequate:
>> MUC messages in user archive: I think that implementation practice has
>> clearly shown that storing MUC messages in the user archive is a Bad
>> Idea, and nobody is doing it anyway. Also the server is probably not in
>> a position to track a user's MUC activity and query all MUCs for whether
>> they implement some sort of message storage. This part should be
>> converted into "SHOULD NOT" or "MUST NOT".
> After some discussion it was suggested to change the scope of this from
> "should not store" to "should not return by default", which is also fine
> with me.

At the risk of repeating myself, I think that storing groupchat messages in the user archives is helpful, and people do this in the wild.

So if there *was* somehow agreement for forbidding it, it would need a namespace bump, because it used to be allowed (and, indeed, recommended).


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