Hey all, Unfortunately, we are not able to participate the Outreachy program this year as Umbrella organisations are not allowed and I was informed one day before the deadline 😕 Sorry, my bad also. I will try next year again. Eddie On 28.01.24 23:15, E.M. wrote:

Dear XSF members and beyond, as I wrote we respectively we as XMPP community or "XMPP project" were not elidgible to participate in the recent Outreachy program round. Two weeks ago I spoke with Sage and Tilda from Outreachy. They explain the following points to me: - Every project, so every XMPP project needs to sign-up as community on their own. - That also means each project needs to acquire the $8,000 funding. There is no umbrella organsiation possible. - Outreachy suggest and looks for setups that serve a community in general. They recommend us to have a program around for example an XMPP library or, as how I see it, an XMPP server. Some points make it potentially difficult for the current nature of our community. But there are also other options that I believe we should review. First of all, Outreachy is not only about software development. It could also be non-technical community projects being financed and worked on. Then, it could also be protocol work we could propose for this. And that is another interesting thing. From here I would like to invite you to come up with ideas. I would not worry too much about the funding at this point. If we have some good ideas maybe even beyond software development, we will find a way to finance it. I don't think it needs to come from only one source. Some I ideas out of my mind: - XMPP Academy: Something like a learning program for newcomers. Could be educational. - Series of professional videos: Similar as the idea above - Improved press kit and promotion material - Protocol works: "Your ideas" :-) I am also very new to this, so please assume that my statements come with some uncertainty. I will do my best to move on. Looking forward to hear back from you and see if we find a way in. I think it has lots of potential. Have a nice 1st May, Eddie 21 feb 2024 21:17:55 E.M. <emus(a)mailbox.org>rg>:

Hey, let me clarify: The XSF cannot act as an umbrella organisation for other XMPP projects. But they can and need to sign-up themselves. It's a bit confusing to me and I don't get it completely, too. I also don't see this as reason to not work with Outreachy. The XSF can still support smaller XMPP entities in general with the process and organisation. And, we can still run and do general XMPP Community supporting or XSF supporting projects. As said, the projects don't need to have software development nature. 1 may 2024 14:50:48 Stephen Paul Weber <singpolyma(a)singpolyma.net>et>:

I'm not sure if I understand you right. Why should the XSF not be involved? 1 may 2024 16:35:48 Stephen Paul Weber <singpolyma(a)singpolyma.net>et>:

Hi Stephen, I am not sure if we are talking the same points. - I see that we don't need to be involved directly. However, we can offer help to support the program and also learn from it. It may also backup the community in general if the XSF offers help indirectly. It may even enable these communities to step up for this at all. In my view we already do this with GSoC. It would also be good to know which communties we have there in the end. - Next, for topics around the protocol and promotion works or other general ideas the XSF can create their own community and run this directly. That also let me remind and call again to tell general interest as well as suggest ideas as I wrote. Best regards, Eddie On 01.05.24 16:47, Stephen Paul Weber <singpolyma(a)singpolyma.net> wrote: