[Standards] Re: Proposed XMPP Extension: Explicit Mentions

On 31 Mar 2026, at 09:57, Goffi <goffi(a)goffi.org> wrote: Le mardi 24 mars 2026, 15:55:41 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Goffi a écrit : Gultsch Hi, I didn't get any feedback, but with my council hat, this is important to know the whole picture before casting my vote. To be clear: I'm sympathetic to specification, and grateful to the work done in this contribution. However, some parts are redundant with XEP-0372. I've thought a bit about it, and I actually think that both use cases are necessary: - explicit mentions are more efficient for people already in the MUC, as there is not extra message, and they can specify who is mentioned. - I think that it's necessary to be able to mention people not in the room, or sort of "registered" to a room, but not present at the time of the mention. In this case, the MUC service could use XEP-0372 to mention them. Not being physically present in a room and receiving mention can have huge benefits when following large room. - XEP-0372 can also be used with Pubsub, which is, with my client developer hat, a very important feature to me. So there is room for both. However, there should not be 2 different ways of marking the location of the mention, it should use XEP-0372 (maybe an updated version of it) and made compatible with XEP-0394 (without making XEP-0394 mandatory). All of that is not blocking to go to experimental and have an official number, but if time flies and people start to implement, it's important to have those concerns addressed as fast as possible. I would really appreciate to have some feedback here before our meeting this afternoon if possible (BTW, time has changed in many countries, so local meeting time may be different for anybody willing to attend).