7 Apr
2025
7 Apr
'25
5:36 a.m.
Greetings.
I would want to propose to replace the word "social" by another word.
The reason for this, is because "social" would imply of theme "social
network", even though this is not only for that theme.
This means, that some developers would be reluctant to add support for
XEP-0472 because they would be of the opinion that their software is
not intended for social network theme.
In order to avoid that misunderstanding, I suggest to rename the title.
Please advise.
Kind regards,
Schimon.
P.S.
Mr. Webber, has proposed to name Atom Over XMPP (i.e. XEP-0277 and
XEP-0472) as "Feeds" in the graphical interface of Cheogram.
In addition, Arne of monocles chat, JC Brand and Nicolas (nioc) are
alos in favour of adding support for Atom Over XMPP to their software.
I maintain a list of projects of which I petition for Atom Over XMPP.
gemini://woodpeckersnest.space/~schapps/journal/2024-05-30-publishing-over-xmpp.gmi
7 Apr
7 Apr
5:57 a.m.
Hi,
Author here, I'm not sure if the name of the XEP is really blocking
people to implement it. The goal of this XEP is to standardize a generic
way to publish Atom elements AND some specific configuration and most of
the usage for that will be for social features, but if you want to use
it for other purposes I don't see what would it be a problem.
Another thing is that this XEP is coming with several namespaces
(urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:1,
urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:gallery:1...) that are now used already on
the network quite extensively. Another XEP is also built on 0472, Pubsub
Stories https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0501.html with its own namespace
(urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:stories:0), and more to come.
This XEP is a bit more than Atom over XMPP (check the Profiles
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0472.html#profiles), and regarding the
difficulties to rename it without deprecating/breaking things I'd just
advice to just keep the current name.
I'm OK to amend the XEP however, for example completing the introduction
to give some details about what you're proposing so feel free to do a
little PR with your improvements, I'd be happy to review them.
Regards,
edhelas
Le 07/04/2025 à 13:36, Schimon Jehudah a écrit :
Greetings.
I would want to propose to replace the word "social" by another word.
The reason for this, is because "social" would imply of theme "social
network", even though this is not only for that theme.
This means, that some developers would be reluctant to add support for
XEP-0472 because they would be of the opinion that their software is
not intended for social network theme.
In order to avoid that misunderstanding, I suggest to rename the title.
Please advise.
Kind regards,
Schimon.
P.S.
Mr. Webber, has proposed to name Atom Over XMPP (i.e. XEP-0277 and
XEP-0472) as "Feeds" in the graphical interface of Cheogram.
In addition, Arne of monocles chat, JC Brand and Nicolas (nioc) are
alos in favour of adding support for Atom Over XMPP to their software.
I maintain a list of projects of which I petition for Atom Over XMPP.
gemini://woodpeckersnest.space/~schapps/journal/2024-05-30-publishing-over-xmpp.gmi
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6:39 a.m.
Good day. Timothée.
I thank you very much for your respond.
I also think, that the name is fine and should not constitute a set
back.
This apparent problem arose due to a certain respond that I am still
puzzled with. I will send a link directly to your email.
I will further consult about it and respond on this mailing list, if
needed.
Kind regards,
Schimon
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 13:57:49 +0200
Timothée Jaussoin <edhelas(a)movim.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Author here, I'm not sure if the name of the XEP is really blocking
people to implement it. The goal of this XEP is to standardize a
generic way to publish Atom elements AND some specific configuration
and most of the usage for that will be for social features, but if
you want to use it for other purposes I don't see what would it be a
problem.
Another thing is that this XEP is coming with several namespaces
(urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:1,
urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:gallery:1...) that are now used already
on the network quite extensively. Another XEP is also built on 0472,
Pubsub Stories https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0501.html with its own
namespace (urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:stories:0), and more to come.
This XEP is a bit more than Atom over XMPP (check the Profiles
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0472.html#profiles), and regarding
the difficulties to rename it without deprecating/breaking things I'd
just advice to just keep the current name.
I'm OK to amend the XEP however, for example completing the
introduction to give some details about what you're proposing so feel
free to do a little PR with your improvements, I'd be happy to review
them.
Regards,
edhelas
Le 07/04/2025 à 13:36, Schimon Jehudah a écrit :
Greetings.
I would want to propose to replace the word "social" by another
word.
The reason for this, is because "social" would imply of theme
"social network", even though this is not only for that theme.
This means, that some developers would be reluctant to add support
for XEP-0472 because they would be of the opinion that their
software is not intended for social network theme.
In order to avoid that misunderstanding, I suggest to rename the
title.
Please advise.
Kind regards,
Schimon.
P.S.
Mr. Webber, has proposed to name Atom Over XMPP (i.e. XEP-0277 and
XEP-0472) as "Feeds" in the graphical interface of Cheogram.
In addition, Arne of monocles chat, JC Brand and Nicolas (nioc) are
alos in favour of adding support for Atom Over XMPP to their
software.
I maintain a list of projects of which I petition for Atom Over
XMPP.
gemini://woodpeckersnest.space/~schapps/journal/2024-05-30-publishing-over-xmpp.gmi
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