[Foundation] Who will own Jabber.org Foundation?

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Sat May 19 22:54:45 CDT 2001


Hi Harold,

Well, I thought I was answering your question by saying that the Jabber 
Foundation will be a membership organization -- since to me that means 
the Foundation will be owned by its members, who shall have sole power 
to determine its form of incorporation, its bylaws, its management (in 
the form of its Board of Directors and Executive Committee), etc. -- but 
perhaps I misunderstood your question. So let me be crystal-clear. Based 
on everything I have heard and read, my understanding is that the Jabber 
Foundation will be a fully independent not-for-profit corporation, that 
it will be beholden to no other organization, and that it will not be 
owned in whole or in part by any other organization or corporation. In 
particular, the Foundation will decidedly *not* be owned by or be a 
subsidiary of Jabber.com in any way.

So to the best of my knowledge, the answer to your question is an 
emphatic "NO".

If this is not clear in the present draft of the bylaws and articles of 
incorporation, then that draft needs to be improved before it becomes final.

Hope this helps,

Peter

Harold E. Gottschalk Jr. wrote:

> Peter,
> I am sorry ownership of the corporation has nothing to do with members, or
> the limit of members by some arbitrary percentage from another organization.
> 
> The questions is, is the corporation owned by any other entity?  If it is
> not owned by jabber.com then say so, the bylaws are a different then
> ownership.  I just want to know if Jabber.com will own the foundation.
> 
> I have read the draft several times.
> 
> heg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: members-admin at jabber.org [mailto:members-admin at jabber.org]On
> Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: members at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation] Who will own Jabber.org Foundation?
> 
> 
> The Jabber Foundation (i.e., jabber.org) will be a non-for-profit
> corporation owned by its members, with a 15% limit on the number of
> members from any one commercial entity. This means that even if 15% of
> the members come from Jabber.com, Inc., those members will not have a
> controlling interest in the Foundation (even assuming that the
> individuals who work for Jabber.com would be corporate tools who seek to
> enforce some corporate policy or another, which I hold is not the case).
> 
> Details can be found in the draft bylaws / article of incorporation:
> 
> http://foundation.jabber.org/bylaws-draft.html
> 
> Peter
> 
> Harold E. Gottschalk Jr. wrote:
> 
> 
>>Will jabber.org the foundation be independently owned or will jabber.com
>>
> own
> 
>>it?
>>
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