[standards-jig] Message Body rendering conformance.

Shawn Wilton shawn at black9.net
Sun Jan 20 06:26:10 UTC 2002


There's no one in the formatting list?  That blows.  Maybe we'll move it
back here... =D

We *really* need a formatting standard for plain text.

-----Original Message-----
From: standards-jig-admin at jabber.org
[mailto:standards-jig-admin at jabber.org]On Behalf Of Julian Missig
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:25 PM
To: standards-jig at jabber.org
Subject: Re: [standards-jig] Message Body rendering conformance.


I was mostly joking, since, well, no one is really on the formatting JIG
except me - but that's where this discussion is moving, my reply is
there. (This has nothing to do with extension standards since this is
text formatting and such)

Shawn Wilton wrote:
> Gah, someone told me to send it here.  :-(
>
> But I'm not talking about an extension.  This would be how you render the
> body, now how it's formatted.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: standards-jig-admin at jabber.org
> [mailto:standards-jig-admin at jabber.org]On Behalf Of Julian Missig
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:09 PM
> To: standards-jig at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [standards-jig] Message Body rendering conformance.
>
>
> This should probably go to the Fomatting JIG ;) - But it's perfectly
> possible to make another extension if you don't like the XHTML one.
>
> Julian
>
> Shawn Wilton wrote:
>
>>Hey howdy.  I had an idea and wanted to put it before
>>the big shots.  They told me to send it here.  ;-)
>>
>>So the idea is this.  We have a problem right now
>>with how clients handle the rendering/formatting of
>>the message body.  Now I know about the xhtml spec and
>>this has *nothing* to do with that.  If you want bold,
>>italicism, etc. then you should use the xhtml.  No,
>>what I'm talking about are things like the irc tags
>>and emoticons.  Now when I go to use the aim or the
>>msn system, etc. then I get a consist look and feel
>>in the formatting of a message.  I know what the other
>>person is going to see when i send them something.
>>Unfortunately we do not yet have this sort of
>>congruence in jabber and I think this only hurts us.
>>
>>Here's what I propose:
>>We need a system.  A system that clients can implement
>>that gives all of us a similar format to work with.
>>1.  We need emoticons.  These should be smileys, winks,
>>    etc. and they need to be free (BSD lisenced icons).
>>    For these emoticons we also need standard maps
>>    from text -> graphic that people can use in their
>>    clients.
>>2.  We need a standard list of irc like tags.  As it
>>    stands, almost all clients implement /me for example.
>>    I would also propose others for standard convenience.
>>    /c for close, /subject for a subject change, and
>>    anything else people can think of.
>>
>>Now this would all be optional of course since we can't
>>and don't want to force people to use a system they
>>don't care for.  But atleast then we have set of standards
>>and free for use icons to work off of.
>>
>>I don't know, lmk what you think.
>>
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