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Re: Jabber Trademark Sublicensing agreement. Was: Re: Re: XSF EU Legal Structure - Help us define evaluation criteria

by Ralph Meijer

Aren't these the same documents that are already linked on the background page? I think the thing missing is an agreement that permits the sublicensing by the JSF/XSF. On 2 July 2026 18:11:22 CEST, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter(a)stpeter.im> wrote: >Attached please find scanned copies of: > >- A letter of intent between Jabber Inc. and the Jabber Software Foundation, dated December 16, 2002 >- A trademark licensing agreement between Jabber Inc. and the Jabber Software Foundation, dated March 7, 2003 >- A trademark enforcement agreement between Jabber Inc. and the Jabber Software Foundation, dated May 2, 2003 > >For the avoidance of doubt, I believe that these are the only documents I have on file (in a locked, fireproof safe at my house) related to the trademark licensing agreement. For example, I do not believe that I have any documents on file related to affirmation that Cisco Systems Inc. would honor the trademark licensing agreement upon its acquisition of Jabber Inc. on Halloween, 2008. It is possible that such documents exist, but I would need to do more digging in order to find them. > >I would most appreciate it if someone would be so kind as to submit a PR against the XSF website so that these documents will be publicly available there. > >Peter > >On Tue, Jun 30, 2026, at 9:50 AM, Ralph Meijer wrote: >> On 04/06/2026 15.50, Dave Cridland wrote: >>> [..] >>> Very specifically on these, I think it would be useful to classify the IPR and related assets that the existing XSF has. My non-exhaustive guesswork gives me: >>> >>> [..] >>> * Trademark licences (I think the XSF has a trademark licence for Jabber, though I can't find it) >> >> This document can be found here <https://xmpp.org/docs/Trademark_License_Agreement.pdf>, as linked from <https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/jabber-trademark/background/>. Note that this document specifically disallows sublicensing, but read on below. >> >>> * Trademark sublicensor: https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/jabber-trademark/ >> >> Even though the JabberⓇ Trademark License Agreement clearly asserts that there is an agreement between the XSF and Cisco to offer a sublicensing program, we do not currently have any public document that explicitly shows this. I've been working with Peter to assess the relevant documents and whether we can make them publicly available. If so, we will make sure to add them to this section of the XSF website. >> >> I will provide an update when I have more to share. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ralph >>

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Agenda for the XSF Board Meeting on July 2 2026

by Guus der Kinderen

Dear Board members, This email announces the agenda for our next Board meeting, scheduled for Thursday, 2 July 2026, from 16:00 to 16:30 UTC. The meeting will take place in the XSF chatroom at xmpp:xsf@muc.xmpp.org?join. Brief context is included for each agenda item to support preparation. *1. Welcome*Opening of the meeting. *2. Formalize Agenda*Confirm and approve the agenda for this meeting. *3. Jabber Trademark Sublicensing Program*Continue the discussion from the previous meeting following the agreed mailing list discussion and any progress on outstanding action items. The Board is invited to review any community feedback, the status of the trademark@ mailbox, and any legal clarification obtained since the last meeting. Mailing list messages: - https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/members@xmpp.org/message/AOSPQYJACO… - https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/members@xmpp.org/message/XR4MEQMIYK… - https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/members@xmpp.org/message/MIOABW77NC… *4. Any Other Business (AOB)*Items not listed above that require brief attention. *5. Date of next meeting*Agreement on the date of the next Board meeting. *6. Close*Closing of the meeting. Please review the relevant materials ahead of the meeting so that we can use our time efficiently. Kind regards, Guus

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