Re: [IOT] google abandoning XMPP?

Hello Sebastián. Perhaps not the correct forum (as this thread has to do with XMPP in Internet of Things), but I'll respond anyway. It's a strange thing to say that Google drops the XMPP protocol. Could you provide sources? Perhaps you refer to the news that came out yesterday, about Google dropping Google Talk? http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4318830/inside-hangouts-googles-big-fix-f… It has been discussed in threads like this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1343916 It has nothing to do with XMPP itself, but in Googles inability to create a popular Instant Messaging (or social) platform. It has happened before (Google Wave, now Google Talk, soon Google+). They've dropped many projects they hoped would be successful, but weren't. Has nothing to do with the underlying protocol or technologies used. In retrospect, it's not really strange that Google has been unsuccessful with IM (or social platforms): It's against what Google does: Google wants to centralize everything, to be able to use that information for commercial purposes. Social information is in essence private, and there's a huge distrust in providing that to Google. (That Facebook succeeded in this might be because nobody knew FB when they started.) XMPP is about decentralizing and distributing information, not having to go to central repositories, where personal security and integrity might be an issue. It has had difficulty attracting attention, since it is easy to find alternatives. You can see similar conflicts occur in other areas as well, like the Internet of Things, where it is common for large enterprises to desire control of the entire infrastructure. To them, XMPP is a threat as it is open, extensible, interoperable, standardized and free. Sincerely, Peter Waher From: Sebastián Odena [mailto:sebodena@gmail.com] Sent: den 16 maj 2013 12:01 To: iot(a)xmpp.org Subject: [IOT] google abandoning XMPP? Does somebody have any news about google abandoning XMPP protocol?