Hi,
Someone just wrongfully banned me from the XSF MUC, I of course don't think I said anything that should result in a ban at all, but clearly neither of these <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0458.html#immediate> apply so if someone thought I did it should follow the reporting+discussion requirements from the CoC, and not be a unilateral ban from a mod that doesn't like what I said.
I'd like to be unbanned immediately and the mod that wrongfully banned me to re-read the CoC they are supposed to enforce.
Thanks,
moparisthebest
Hello,
you can find the meeting minutes here:
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Meeting-Minutes-2026-06-04
All reappliers were accepted, we had no new applicants this quarter.
I will open the Q3 application period soon.
Thanks,
Alex
Dear XSF members,
This email is the next step in the ongoing work on a potential EU legal
structure for the XSF.
To recap where we are: in December, the Board asked for volunteers to
investigate lightweight options for an EU presence [1]. In February,
example proposals were shared on the wiki and opened for community feedback
[2]. Many members participated in that discussion (thanks!) and five
proposals are now documented:
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XSF_EU_Legal_Transition_Proposal - The proposals
cover a range of approaches, from full EU reconstitution to structural
simplification, to more lightweight options.
At today's Board meeting, we concluded that the proposals give us a good
foundation, but that we are not yet in a position to rank or narrow them
reliably. What is missing is a shared evaluation framework: without
agreeing on what matters most, any comparison risks being arbitrary.
The Board's proposed next step is therefore to define a set of evaluation
criteria first, and then use those as a yardstick to assess the proposals.
We would like your input on that list of criteria before the Board
finalises it at the next meeting on 21 May.
Below is an initial draft. We are not asking you to evaluate the proposals
yet, only to help us refine this list:
- Governance & Member Control - evaluates how decisions are made within
the organization, including the roles of members and the board and how
voting rights are allocated.
- Legal & Regulatory Complexity - considers the requirements and
processes for forming and maintaining the entity under the laws of the
chosen jurisdiction, including compliance, reporting, and language
obligations.
- IP & Asset Transfer Feasibility - looks at how easily intellectual
property, trademarks, and other assets can be transferred to or managed
within the proposed structure.
- Transition Cost & Operational Overhead - assesses estimated setup
costs, ongoing administrative responsibilities, and any additional
operational effort required to implement the structure.
- International Orientation & Reach - considers how well the structure
accommodates contributors, members, and operations across multiple
countries.
- Continuity & Long-Term Sustainability - evaluates whether the
structure can support ongoing operations smoothly during and after any
transition, including maintaining organizational stability.
- Financial Flexibility & Funding Options - examines whether the
structure allows XSF to manage finances effectively, including holding
funds, receiving donations, or engaging in grants or other funding
mechanisms.
- Flexibility for Future Changes - assesses whether the structure can
adapt to changes in membership, governance, operations, or jurisdictional
requirements without requiring a complete reorganization.
- Risk & Liability Management - looks at how the structure addresses
legal, financial, and operational risks, including liability exposure for
board members, contributors, and the organization itself.
- Alignment with Strategic Goals - evaluates how the proposed structure
supports XSF's overall mission, objectives, and long-term strategic
direction.
Specifically, we would welcome your thoughts on:
1. Are there important criteria missing from this list?
2. Are any of the listed criteria redundant or not relevant to our
situation?
3. Which criteria do you consider most important?
The Board will use the feedback from this thread at the next meeting (21
May) to agree on a final, ordered list of criteria. We will then use that
list to structure a more focused evaluation of the proposals.
Please reply to this thread by 19 May if possible, to give the Board time
to review input before the meeting.
Thanks in advance for your time and thoughts.
Kind regards,
Guus
[1]
https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/members@xmpp.org/thread/UBVF332GN63…
[2]
https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/members@xmpp.org/thread/5OS3L2D4EH6…
Dear XSF members,
At today's Board meeting we made progress on the EU legal structure
evaluation. Here is a brief summary of where things stand and what happens
next.
*What was agreed*
The Board has adopted a finalised set of evaluation criteria. These will be
used to compare and assess the five proposals currently documented on the
wiki. Full descriptions of each criterion are now on the wiki page that
also links each proposal:
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XSF_EU_Legal_Transition_Proposal
*The process going forward*
1. Proposal authors self-assess their proposal against the criteria.
2. The Board and members review and validate those assessments.
3. The Board narrows to one or two preferred options and issues a
recommendation to members.
4. Members receive a final opportunity to weigh in.
5. The Board makes a final decision.
*Call to action for proposal authors*If you are the author of one of the
five proposals, we are asking you to prepare a self-assessment of your
proposal against the criteria listed above and share it on this mailing
list.
If you have questions about the criteria or the process, feel free to reply
to this thread.
Thank you all for your continued patience and engagement with this process.
Kind regards,
Guus der Kinderen
on behalf of the XSF Board
Dear Board members,
This email announces the agenda for our next Board meeting, scheduled for
Thursday, 4 June 2026, from 16:00 to 16:30 UTC. The meeting will take place
in the XSF chatroom at xmpp:xsf@muc.xmpp.org?join.
Brief context is included for each agenda item to support preparation.
*1. Welcome*
Opening of the meeting.
*2. Formalize Agenda*
Confirm and approve the agenda for this meeting.
*3. XSF EU Legal Structure: Evaluation Framework (resumed)*
Deferred from the May 21 meeting. Guus sent a follow-up to the members list
after that meeting with a concrete criteria proposal, but no further member
feedback has arrived since. The Board should use Guus's proposal as the
basis for agreeing a finalized, ordered set of evaluation criteria, and
define the next steps for applying those criteria to the five proposals on
the wiki.
Mailing list thread:
https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/members@xmpp.org/thread/J5U4MXNFP6M…
Wiki page: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XSF_EU_Legal_Transition_Proposal
*4. Any Other Business (AOB)*
Items not listed above that require brief attention.
*5. Date of next meeting*
Agreement on the date of the next Board meeting.
*6. Close*
Closing of the meeting.
Please review the relevant materials ahead of the meeting so that we can
use our time efficiently.
Kind regards,
Guus
According to my records the following XSF members have voted via proxy
in the current voting period:
* badrihippo (at) disroot.org
* trần.h.trung (at) trung.fun
* jonas (at) wielicki.name
* lbocquet (at) jabber.org
* dele.olajide (at) igniterealtime.org
* gnemmi (at) xmpp.social
* mremond (at) process-one.net
* mathieui (at) mathieui.net
* thilo.molitor (at) juforum.de
* me (at) syndace.dev
* singpolyma (at) singpolyma.net
* polarian (at) icebound.dev
* emus (at) jabbers.one
* jabberjocke (at) jabber.org
* travis (at) burtrum.org
* andrzej.wojcik (at) tigase.org
* daniel (at) spacecloud.one
* guus.der.kinderen (at) igniterealtime.org
* gnauck (at) conversations.im
If you have not yet voted, please send a message to xmpp:memberbot@xmpp.org.
If you have problems with memberbot please contact me directly by email
or xmpp.
Thanks,
Alex
Good afternoon,
After discussions with Matthew yesterday, we have decided that the
sprint should be held on one of the following ranges of dates.
* Fri 25th Sep to Sun 27th Sep
* Fri 2nd Oct to Sun 4th Oct
* Fri 9th Oct to Sun 11th Oct
* Fri 16th Oct to Sun 18th Oct
* Fri 23th Oct to Sun 25th Oct
* Fri 30th Oct to Sun 1st Nov
* Fri 6th Nov to Sun 8th Nov
* Fri 13th Nov to Sun 15th Nov
* Fri 20th Nov to Sun 22nd Nov
* Fri 27th Nov to Sun 29th Nov
To vote, please copy the above list, and reply WITHIN THE THREAD to me
either privately (if you don't want it public) or onlist and put one of
the following symbols next to every range:
+ (Available)
x (Unavailable)
- (Could be available)
For those who are not able to post to the list, please send me an email
(polarian(a)polarian.dev) and I will include your vote, please only vote
if you are interested in attending.
I will count the responses and pass them onto Matthew on Sunday 17th
May (1 week from now).
Note: Matthew is *NOT* MattJ aka Matthew Wild, we really need to
find a solution to the duplicate Matthews.
Happy voting!
Take care,
--
Polarian
Jabber/XMPP: polarian(a)icebound.dev
Hello everyone!
The XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF) will hold its 29th Summit on Friday 4
September and Saturday 5 September 2026. This will be the first online XMPP
Summit in the organizers' memory!
*Join the Summit*To participate, please sign up at the wiki The event is
open to all community members and participation is free of cost.
Sign up / participant list:
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Conferences/Summit_29 (have
a look at https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sysops if you need an account)
*About the Summit*The XMPP Summit is where the XMPP community comes
together to discuss protocol development, implementation experience, and
the future of the ecosystem.
While traditionally held in person, this online edition brings the same
unconference spirit into a distributed format, with a pre-prepared agenda
and structured discussions to make the most of the online setting.
*Date & time*Friday 4 September 2026
Saturday 5 September 2026
Both days: 13:00 - 16:00 UTC
Each session will include focused discussions on selected topics, with
short breaks between sessions.
*Format highlights*
Topics are proposed and discussed in advance of the Summit. Community
voting determines the final agenda. Four topics will be selected for
discussion across the two days. Each session is up to 80 minutes, with
short breaks in between.
This format is designed to keep discussions focused, productive, and
accessible across time zones.
*How to participate*
To stay informed and coordinate:
- Join the Summit chat room: xmpp:summit@muc.xmpp.org?join
<xmpp:summit@muc.xmpp.org?join> (web client:
https://xmpp.org/chat/#converse/room?jid=summit@muc.xmpp.org)
- Subscribe to the mailing list:
http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/summit
*Add yourself & propose topics*If you plan to participate, please add your
name to the participant list on the wiki page. You are also encouraged to
propose topics you would like to discuss, including a short description and
desired outcome.
*Conduct and participation*We ask all participants to follow the XSF
Community Code of Conduct: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0458.html
Please be mindful of time zones, keep discussions focused, and help ensure
everyone has the opportunity to contribute.
*Further details*Practical information about the video platform and
coordination will be shared closer to the event.
We look forward to seeing you at Summit 29 and to another productive
gathering of the XMPP community!
Kind regards,
Daniel & Guus
XSF Summits, Conferences and Meetups work team
Dear Board members,
This email announces the agenda for our next Board meeting, scheduled for
Thursday, 21 May 2026, from 16:00 to 16:30 UTC. The meeting will take place
in the XSF chatroom at xmpp:xsf@muc.xmpp.org?join.
Brief context is included for each agenda item to support preparation.
*1. Welcome*
Opening of the meeting.
*2. Formalize Agenda*Confirm and approve the agenda for this meeting.
*3. Board Readiness Assessment*
Assess whether current discussions about (1) AI use in writing XEPs, (2)
process changes related to contributor IPR/copyright handling, and (3)
possibly becoming a CVE Numbering Authority are ready for formal Board
decision-making.
Decide whether each topic should:
(a) remain in open discussion phase while clearer proposals are developed,
or
(b) move into a structured decision phase with defined options, criteria,
and trade-offs prepared for Board approval.
Mailing list threads:
(1)
https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/standards@xmpp.org/thread/TEATGPR45…
(2)
https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/standards@xmpp.org/thread/QOCHL4TYV…
(3)
https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/members@xmpp.org/thread/ZRI4PL2X3LQ…
*4. XSF EU legal structure: Evaluation Framework*
Review the current status of the evaluation criteria for the EU legal
structure transition, noting that little to no additional feedback was
received from the members mailing list. Agree on a finalised and ordered
set of evaluation criteria to be used for comparing and assessing options.
Define next steps, including how these criteria will be used in a
structured comparison and prioritisation process for the available
proposals.
Mailing list thread:
https://mail.jabber.org/hyperkitty/list/members@xmpp.org/thread/J5U4MXNFP6M…
Wiki page: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/XSF_EU_Legal_Transition_Proposal
*5. Any Other Business (AOB)*
Items not listed above that require brief attention.
*6. Date of next meeting*Agreement on the date of the next Board meeting.
*7. Close*
Closing of the meeting.
Please review the relevant materials ahead of the meeting so that we can
use our time efficiently.
Kind regards,
Guus
Hello,
I've started proxy voting via xmpp:memberbot@xmpp.org on the membership
applications listed here:
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q2_2026
We will hold a member meeting on June 4th to formally approve the voting
results.
The meeting particulars are:
Date: June 4th, 2026
Time: 19:00 UTC
Location: xmpp:xsf@muc.xmpp.org
When you have problems with memberbot please contact my directly by
email or xmpp.
Thanks,
Alex