Hello Madina.
Do you have a link to your diploma work? How does it relate to Internet of Things?
This group just opened up. I guess we're waiting for a sufficient amount of interested parties to be able to start to discuss how the XMPP architecture can be used to in IoT, and the Semantic Web. We work with AMR, IoT and Semantic Web, and would also like to participate in setting standards for how we can extend XMPP across the semantic web (communicate with semantic resources over XMPP instead of over HTTP, extend SPARQL to include XMPP-based resources, etc.), and also use as a transport mechanism in sensor networks. Perhaps we could also create some kind of test-bed for IoT using XMPP and Semantic Web technologies?
How many members of the IoT XMPP group are now/soon ready/interested in participating in such work?
Or is it customary for one party to suggest a solution based on what they've already done?
Sincerely,
Peter Waher
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:00:10 +0300
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Hello
My diploma work was associated with semantic WEB and semantic analysis. I created a program that is used together four main areas - semantic networks, products, frames, and logical model. I developed the system for not simply answer and understand what she writes the user - the main thing was that she understood the nature of both objects with their properties and actions and their relationships.
At the moment I am developing a chat, using hmpp server. I would be very interessting take part in the structuring and establishment of similar Projects summary. How can I participate in your discus and things?
Madina
My thesis was written in Russian, even if I send to u some text - you
can hardly read it. I am not yet very familiar with the basic theses
of IOT (or maybe u have some good description about it), but this
weekend I'll see on the Internet the information about it. For the use
Semantic Web and xmpp - I need some time to reflect on that connection
and possible applications.
p.s: we can create some little "voice conference" in this weekend. In
a conversation is easier to discuss important issues.
>Hello Madina.
>
>Do you have a link to your diploma work? How does it relate to Internet of Things?
>
>This group just opened up. I guess we're waiting for a sufficient amount of interested parties to be able to start to discuss how the XMPP architecture can be used to in IoT, >and the Semantic Web. We work with AMR, IoT and Semantic Web, and would also like to participate in setting standards for how we can extend XMPP across the >semantic web (communicate with semantic resources over XMPP instead of over HTTP, extend SPARQL to include XMPP-based resources, etc.), and also use as a >transport mechanism in sensor networks. Perhaps we could also create some kind of test-bed for IoT using XMPP and Semantic Web technologies?
>
>How many members of the IoT XMPP group are now/soon ready/interested in participating in such work?
>
>Or is it customary for one party to suggest a solution based on what they've already done?
>
>Sincerely,
>Peter Waher
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Hello
My diploma work was associated with semantic WEB and semantic analysis. I
created a program that is used together four main areas - semantic
networks, products, frames, and logical model. I developed the system for
not simply answer and understand what she writes the user - the main thing
was that she understood the nature of both objects with their properties
and actions and their relationships.
At the moment I am developing a chat, using hmpp server. I would be very
interessting take part in the structuring and establishment of similar
Projects summary. How can I participate in your discus and things?
Madina
Hello
We've come into contact with CoAP through the work of some of the research institutes working with IoT where in Sweden (SICS, SUST). They use it as a lightweight replacement of an HTTP server in embedded devices with very small RAM. A question arose if one could use CoAP over XMPP in some way... The problem as we saw it was that this approach didn't really solve any of the problems of communicating with devices (i.e. understanding different devices), and only solved the problem of transporting telegrams over gateways. You still had to know the proprietary protocols of each device. (CoAP has been said to be "just another protocol" in this sense.)
Another approach we've looked into is EXI. It is also very efficient and requires very little RAM, but permits the flexibility of XML and extensions. There are tools for creating C code from XML Schema files directly, so implementation is quick, straightforward, battery & memory efficient, while still maintaining the flexibility of XML. In this case, you could create XMPP extensions with schemas for sensor data, control data and common AMR/AMI tasks for communicating with devices at a higher level, not forcing each device to know the protocols of each other. If this could be done, XMPP could be used, not only as a transport mechanism, but an interoperability platform for IoT. Devices adhereing to such extensions could be interchanged in systems, making it an interesting platforms for operators of AMR/AMI systems.
Sincerely,
Peter Waher
PS: If anybody is interested in working with IoT or AMR using XMPP & EXI, we may be interested in joining.
Clayster provides systems and technology for AMR/AMI/IoT/Semantic Web
Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im <mailto:iot%40xmpp.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BIOT%5D%20CoAP&In-Reply-To=%3C4F7F9E2C.9050909%40stpeter.im%3E>
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Have folks here looked into CoAP, the Constrained Application Protocol?
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-coap/
It might be useful to define a mapping between CoAP and XMPP for
gateways between home/local area networks and the cloud...
Peter
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Dear all,
glad to be part of this list. I've worked in the IoT field since march
2008, with the company I am co-founder of.
Back in the days, I took the liberty of defining a XMPP extension which had
the purpose of defining how physical devices could interact, and other
concepts such as distributed lookup and searches that would spread across
XMPP networks, or the claiming of devices' ownerships.
Papers here <http://openspime.org/documents> if anyone is interested. Not
perfect, but we have used in production (a partial open source
implementation was released some time ago,
here<http://code.google.com/p/pyopenspime/>
).
Cheers,
r.
Have folks here looked into CoAP, the Constrained Application Protocol?
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-coap/
It might be useful to define a mapping between CoAP and XMPP for
gateways between home/local area networks and the cloud...
Peter
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https://stpeter.im/
