Hello Mat & Hannes.
Mat: Excellent to hear you're interested in this work. We too have commercial products out using XMPP, but in the field of utility metering and building control & automation. Basically, we have PLC's communicating with XMPP (as well as metering & SCADA systems doing the same on the other end). We're now pushing for the use of XMPP on the sensor level.
However, instead of trying to publish a XEP based on this work, which would be rejected since it's not generic enough to suite everybody, I'm trying to find other parties who work in this field, so we together could propose a XEP suitable for all, and hence have a better chance of being accepted by the XSF.
Hannes: I'm sorry to see I missed your mail. Could you mail me this again? (Also to peterwaher(a)hotmail.com). Perhaps it got lost in an e-mail filter, which seems to happen a lot unfortunately :(, both ways.
Regarding HTTP: We're not using HTTP a lot in our sensor communication yet, mostly in research projects. However, we're also pushing for web 3.0 technology, i.e. sensor data using semantic web technologies, which is mainly (but not necessarily) based on HTTP(S). We believe this to be the future of IoT also. If we could intermarry XMPP & web 3.0 technologies, would be great, and is one of my hopes/goals to achieve within the XSF. (However, it would require multiple XEP's.)
Sincerely,
Peter Waher
Hello William Miller
I would like to participate in the teleconference. Could you mail me information on how to connect?
Also, could you mail to me, or to the list, more technical information about ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4?
Sincerely,
Peter Waher
-----Original Message-----
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:04:27 -0400
From: "William Miller" <mact-usa(a)att.net>
To: <iot(a)xmpp.org>
Subject: [IOT] Invitation to participate in IEEE/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4
Working Group (10-24-12)
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To IoT Members,
I wish to extend to IoT members to participate in open discussion and meeting for a Call for Participation in the kick-off of
* ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4, XMPP Interface Working Group schedule for
1000 hours (EST) on 2012-11-30
I would ask that you RSVP me regarding your intent on these teleconferences, in addition to the WG Chair(s) and ISO/IEC/IEEE 2145x Co-chair (Dr. Kang Lee with NIST). This is asked so that I can ascertain the IoT representation,
as well as ensuring that we have enough seats on the teleconference.
The discussion will review the scope of 21451-1-4 Smart Transducer Interface for Sensor, Actuators, and Network Devices to use
eXtensible Markup and Presence Protocol (XMPP).
To learn more about XMPP visit the XMPP Foundation web site at
http://www.xmpp.org XMPP is an extensible protocol that can be used to
provide Common Network Management of networked devices and to facilitate
transport of various protocols including the Internet. This use of the
XMPP protocol is technology agnostic and protocol independent with security built-in. The range of application of XMPP include cloud computing, sensor networks, process control, Smart Grid, M2M, and now the Internet of Things (IoT).
To learn more you can also visit http://www.mact-usa.com which discusses use of XMPP for smart devices such as Android or Apple smart phones, tablets
pc's, etc. The ability to tie-in to various wireless gateways can be
provided for legacy devices.
The meetings are scheduled to last one hour.
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Regards,
W.J.MILLER, PRESIDENT, MaCT, 01 301 500-9277
ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 WG, Chairman
To IoT Members,
I wish to extend to IoT members to participate in open discussion and
meeting for a Call for Participation in the kick-off of
* ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4, XMPP Interface Working Group schedule for
1000 hours (EST) on 2012-11-30
I would ask that you RSVP me regarding your intent on this teleconference,
in addition to the WG Chair(s) and ISO/IEC/IEEE 2145x Co-chair (Dr. Kang Lee
with NIST). This is asked so that I can ascertain the IoT representation,
as well as ensuring that we have enough seats on the teleconference. I will
forward you details for participation.
The discussion will review the scope of 21451-1-4 Smart Transducer Interface
for Sensor, Actuators, and Network Devices to use
eXtensible Markup and Presence Protocol (XMPP).
To learn more about XMPP visit the XMPP Foundation web site at
http://www.xmpp.org XMPP is an extensible protocol that can be used to
provide Common Network Management of networked devices and to facilitate
transport of various protocols including the Internet. This use of the
XMPP protocol is technology agnostic and protocol independent with security
built-in. The range of application of XMPP include cloud computing, sensor
networks, process control, Smart Grid, M2M, and now the Internet of Things
(IoT).
To learn more you can also visit http://www.mact-usa.com which discusses use
of XMPP for smart devices such as Android or Apple smart phones, tablets
pc's, etc. The ability to tie-in to various wireless gateways can be
provided for legacy devices.
The meetings are scheduled to last one hour.
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Regards,
W.J.MILLER, PRESIDENT, MaCT, 01 301 500-9277
ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 WG, Chairman
To IoT Members,
I wish to extend to IoT members to participate in open discussion and
meeting for a Call for Participation in the kick-off of
* ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4, XMPP Interface Working Group schedule for
1000 hours (EST) on 2012-11-30
I would ask that you RSVP me regarding your intent on these teleconferences,
in addition to the WG Chair(s) and ISO/IEC/IEEE 2145x Co-chair (Dr. Kang Lee
with NIST). This is asked so that I can ascertain the IoT representation,
as well as ensuring that we have enough seats on the teleconference.
The discussion will review the scope of 21451-1-4 Smart Transducer Interface
for Sensor, Actuators, and Network Devices to use
eXtensible Markup and Presence Protocol (XMPP).
To learn more about XMPP visit the XMPP Foundation web site at
http://www.xmpp.org XMPP is an extensible protocol that can be used to
provide Common Network Management of networked devices and to facilitate
transport of various protocols including the Internet. This use of the
XMPP protocol is technology agnostic and protocol independent with security
built-in. The range of application of XMPP include cloud computing, sensor
networks, process control, Smart Grid, M2M, and now the Internet of Things
(IoT).
To learn more you can also visit http://www.mact-usa.com which discusses use
of XMPP for smart devices such as Android or Apple smart phones, tablets
pc's, etc. The ability to tie-in to various wireless gateways can be
provided for legacy devices.
The meetings are scheduled to last one hour.
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Regards,
W.J.MILLER, PRESIDENT, MaCT, 01 301 500-9277
ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 WG, Chairman
Peter,
I would like to participate in Summit 12 via Google hangouts.
Please add me to the list!
The follow are a few updates on current activities and events:
I will be speaking at the Advanced Energy Conference 2012 in New York City
on October 30 & 31
on "XMPP for the Smart Grid". The talk is at 9 AM on the 31st. The topic
will focus on the new
ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 Smart Transducer Interface Standard for Sensors
Actuators, and Devices using eXtensible Messaging and Presence Protocol
(XMPP) for Networked Devices.
http://www.aertc.org/conference2012/
Also keep up on the launch of IPDX.NET which utilizes XMPP for M2M
communications with sensors actuators and networks devices using a Service
Orient Architecture (SOA) and Federated Cloud Computer architecture. IPDX
(IP Data Exchange) now provides XMPP support for Android devices and shortly
for Apple and Microsoft. Interested parties should contact me you wish to
use IPDX.NET. For further information go to our web site at
http://www.mact-usa.com
"XMPP for the Smart Grid" was also recently discussed at the IEEE
International Conference on Smart Grid Engineering at the University of
Ontario Institute of technology. "Attendees were on hand for the US,
Canada, Japan, China, Egypt, India, and the EU. It was announced a
formation of a Smart Grid Collaborative Research Network (SG-CRN) that will
utilize IPDX.NET to tie together research facilities via XMPP.
IPDX.NET to offer alerts and remote sensor monitoring to feed the DHS UICDS
(Unified Incident Command and Decision Support) system. This is a
nationwide effort in support of first responders including fire, police,
emergency personnel. Support will include XMPP access to Smart Devices
such as cellphones, tablet pc's, etc. All devices, users, and applications
will use XMPP to provide secure end-to-end communications and data sharing
using XMPP.
IEEE P1451.1.4 (now known as ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4) will launch public
discuss on Nov. 27th and interested parties may participate by sending an
e-mail to me (mact-usa(a)att.net) or Dr. Kang Lee (kang.lee(a)nist.gov) at NIST
and chairman of IEEE TC-9 Sensor Technology.
ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 is now under consideration by ISO JTC1 SC31 as a
common protocol for use in the cargo shipping
industry. It is also a consideration by ISO JTC1 will make a decision on
a new group for the Internet of Things (IoT) of
which XMPP is a considerations as a common protocol.
ISA 100.200 was introduced to ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 and XMPP at the ISA100
face-to-face meeting in Orlando, FL and now is a consideration as part of
standard work for Common Network management (CNM) in ISA100.20 for use in
industrial plants. Please contact me if you are interested in participation
in these discussions.
If you have any questions please contact me. Regards,
W.J.MILLER, PRESIDENT, MaCT, (301) 500-9277 ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 WG,
Chairman
ISA100.20 CNM WG, Chairman
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:37:05 -0600
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter(a)stpeter.im>
To: XMPP in the Internet of Things <iot(a)xmpp.org>
Subject: [IOT] Fwd: [Summit] rough agenda for XMPP Summit 12
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Please read for IOT-related topics -- we're planning to discuss these on
Friday, October 26. Remote participation is welcome and I'm really hoping we
can kick off some good discussion about XMPP and IOT. Please let me know if
you're planning to participate remotely and we'll add you to the wiki page:
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_12
Thanks!
Peter
- -------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Summit] rough agenda for XMPP Summit 12
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:29:45 -0600
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter(a)stpeter.im>
Reply-To: XMPP Summit <summit(a)xmpp.org>
To: XMPP Summit <summit(a)xmpp.org>
Folks, here is a rough agenda for XMPP Summit 12 next week in Portland.
Please provide feedback, let me know if you want to lead a discussion, speak
up if you think other topics are more important, etc.
We plan to use Google Hangouts for remote participation (hey, it's based on
XMPP), so please make sure you can use that if you want to give a
presentation or join in from places other than Portland. I am
*not* planning to get A/V equipment for the room.
(All times are local = Pacific Standard Time = UTC-08:00, note that daylight
saving time ends on November 1 in the USA!)
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 25
09:00 Overview, logistics, agenda bashing
09:10 Introductions / topics of interest
09:30 Lightning talks: "what I'm doing with XMPP" (10-15 minutes each)
10:30 Break
10:45 [TBD] *
12:00 Lunch
13:00 HTTP bindings: BOSH, WebSocket, XMPP, and you
15:00 Break
15:15 HTTP bindings: summary and next steps
15:30 [TBD] *
17:00 End of Day 1
19:00 XSF dinner, location to be determined
FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26
09:00 XMPP and the Internet of Things
10:30 Break
10:45 XMPP and IOT (continued)
12:00 Lunch
13:00 [TBD] *
15:00 End of Day 2
I'd really like input from folks here about the "TBD" topics. There are
things I'd like to talk about, but I want to make sure we cover the topics
that XMPP developers and operators think are high priorities.
Peter
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Please read for IOT-related topics -- we're planning to discuss these
on Friday, October 26. Remote participation is welcome and I'm really
hoping we can kick off some good discussion about XMPP and IOT. Please
let me know if you're planning to participate remotely and we'll add
you to the wiki page:
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_12
Thanks!
Peter
- -------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Summit] rough agenda for XMPP Summit 12
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:29:45 -0600
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter(a)stpeter.im>
Reply-To: XMPP Summit <summit(a)xmpp.org>
To: XMPP Summit <summit(a)xmpp.org>
Folks, here is a rough agenda for XMPP Summit 12 next week in
Portland. Please provide feedback, let me know if you want to lead a
discussion, speak up if you think other topics are more important, etc.
We plan to use Google Hangouts for remote participation (hey, it's
based on XMPP), so please make sure you can use that if you want to
give a presentation or join in from places other than Portland. I am
*not* planning to get A/V equipment for the room.
(All times are local = Pacific Standard Time = UTC-08:00, note that
daylight saving time ends on November 1 in the USA!)
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 25
09:00 Overview, logistics, agenda bashing
09:10 Introductions / topics of interest
09:30 Lightning talks: "what I'm doing with XMPP" (10-15 minutes each)
10:30 Break
10:45 [TBD] *
12:00 Lunch
13:00 HTTP bindings: BOSH, WebSocket, XMPP, and you
15:00 Break
15:15 HTTP bindings: summary and next steps
15:30 [TBD] *
17:00 End of Day 1
19:00 XSF dinner, location to be determined
FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26
09:00 XMPP and the Internet of Things
10:30 Break
10:45 XMPP and IOT (continued)
12:00 Lunch
13:00 [TBD] *
15:00 End of Day 2
I'd really like input from folks here about the "TBD" topics. There
are things I'd like to talk about, but I want to make sure we cover
the topics that XMPP developers and operators think are high priorities.
Peter
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Peter,
I would like to participate in Summit 12 via Google hangouts.
Please add me to the list!
The follow are a few updates on current activities and events:
I will be speaking at the Advanced Energy Conference 2012 in New York City
on October 30 & 31
on "XMPP for the Smart Grid". The talk is at 9 AM on the 31st. The topic
will focus on the new
ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 Smart Transducer Interface Standard for Sensors
Actuators, and Devices
using eXtensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) for Networked
Devices.
http://www.aertc.org/conference2012/
Also keep up on the launch of IPDX.NET which utilizes XMPP for M2M
communications with sensors
actuators and networks devices using a Service Orient Architecture (SOA) and
Federated Cloud Computer
architecture. IPDX (IP Data Exchange) now provides XMPP support for
Android devices and shortly
for Apple and Microsoft. Interested parties should contact me you wish to
use IPDX.NET.
"XMPP for the Smart Grid" was also recently discussed at the IEEE
International Conference on Smart Grid
Engineering at the University of Ontario Institute of technology.
"Attendees were on hand for the US,
Canada, Japan, China, Egypt, India, and the EU. It was announced a
formation of a Smart Grid Collaborative
Research Network (SG-CRN) that will utilize IPDX.NET to tie together
research facilities via XMPP.
IPDX.NET to offer alerts and remote sensor monitoring to feed the DHS UICDS
(Unified Incident Command and
Decision Support) system. This is a nationwide effort in support of first
responders including fire, police, emergency
personnel. Support will include XMPP access to Smart Devices such as
cellphones, tablet pc's, etc. All devices, users,
and applications will use XMPP to provide secure end-to-end communications
and data sharing using XMPP.
IEEE P1451.1.4 (now known as ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4) will launch public
discuss on Nov. 27th and
interested parties may participate by sending an e-mail to me
(mact-usa(a)att.net) or Dr. Kang Lee (kang.lee(a)nist.gov)
at NIST and chairman of IEEE TC-9 Sensor Technology.
ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 is now under consideration by ISO JTC1 SC31 as a
common protocol for use in the cargo shipping
industry. It is also a consideration by ISO JTC1 will make a decision on
a new group for the Internet of Things (IoT) of
which XMPP is a considerations as a common protocol.
ISA 100.200 was introduced to ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 and XMPP at the ISA100
face-to-face meeting in Orlando, FL and
now is a consideration as part of standard work for Common Network
management (CNM) in ISA100.20 for use in
industrial plants. Please contact me if you are interested in participation
in these discussions.
If you have any questions please contact me. Regards,
W.J.MILLER, PRESIDENT, MaCT, (301) 500-9277
ISO/IEC/IEEE 21451-1-4 WG, Chairman
ISA100.20 CNM WG, Chairman
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:37:05 -0600
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter(a)stpeter.im>
To: XMPP in the Internet of Things <iot(a)xmpp.org>
Subject: [IOT] Fwd: [Summit] rough agenda for XMPP Summit 12
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Please read for IOT-related topics -- we're planning to discuss these on
Friday, October 26. Remote participation is welcome and I'm really hoping we
can kick off some good discussion about XMPP and IOT. Please let me know if
you're planning to participate remotely and we'll add you to the wiki page:
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summit_12
Thanks!
Peter
- -------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Summit] rough agenda for XMPP Summit 12
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:29:45 -0600
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter(a)stpeter.im>
Reply-To: XMPP Summit <summit(a)xmpp.org>
To: XMPP Summit <summit(a)xmpp.org>
Folks, here is a rough agenda for XMPP Summit 12 next week in Portland.
Please provide feedback, let me know if you want to lead a discussion, speak
up if you think other topics are more important, etc.
We plan to use Google Hangouts for remote participation (hey, it's based on
XMPP), so please make sure you can use that if you want to give a
presentation or join in from places other than Portland. I am
*not* planning to get A/V equipment for the room.
(All times are local = Pacific Standard Time = UTC-08:00, note that daylight
saving time ends on November 1 in the USA!)
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 25
09:00 Overview, logistics, agenda bashing
09:10 Introductions / topics of interest
09:30 Lightning talks: "what I'm doing with XMPP" (10-15 minutes each)
10:30 Break
10:45 [TBD] *
12:00 Lunch
13:00 HTTP bindings: BOSH, WebSocket, XMPP, and you
15:00 Break
15:15 HTTP bindings: summary and next steps
15:30 [TBD] *
17:00 End of Day 1
19:00 XSF dinner, location to be determined
FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26
09:00 XMPP and the Internet of Things
10:30 Break
10:45 XMPP and IOT (continued)
12:00 Lunch
13:00 [TBD] *
15:00 End of Day 2
I'd really like input from folks here about the "TBD" topics. There are
things I'd like to talk about, but I want to make sure we cover the topics
that XMPP developers and operators think are high priorities.
Peter
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FYI. I have not looked at this yet...
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Subject: I-D Action: draft-wang-xmpp-extension-00.txt
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:54:56 -0700
From: internet-drafts(a)ietf.org
Reply-To: internet-drafts(a)ietf.org
To: i-d-announce(a)ietf.org
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
Title : XMPP Extension Protocol for the Internet of Things
Author(s) : Ping Wang
Heng Wang
Chao Zhou
Filename : draft-wang-xmpp-extension-00.txt
Pages : 30
Date : 2012-10-05
Abstract:
This document defines the xmpp extension protocol for wireless sensor
networks. Such as industrial automation process control and smart
home applications, etc. This protocol provided the methods of
interaction among applications.
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-xmpp-extension
There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-xmpp-extension-00
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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